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Hello good afternoon, my name is Charles Bryan. This is another one of the pre summit interviews with the speakers of for the Malchromes(?) Communication Summit happening from Tuesday to Thursday next week. I'm here with Dr Eli Brown of Department of Endolithics(?) Engage Group. I also have Malcolm trainer. Good afternoon Andy. Good afternoon. Andy yo why don't you begin by telling us something about yourself and your involvement in the channel communications? Sure absolutely. I worked as the Head of the Endolithics(?) Group up in Gouche(?). Well we helped in turn ___ organizations to well we mentioned the deceptiveness of with do's and cons strategies so I ___ to qualified and competent, constant research and truly help ___ put some on to in their activities and, and I'd be working through some of the stuff that