Hello, I'm here with Natalie Hanes. ___ really romantic. Why are you here this evening? Somebody asked me. That's always my answer when people ask me these things that somebody asked me. I don't remember who asked me but somebody said they will come and protest the Pope so I said yes. Excellent. So you'll be coming(?) to the Pope. What is about the Pope that, that you want to protest about? I'm not a huge fan of the Pope but I suspect probably lots of people have told you why they're not fans of the Pope so I guess what I am protesting particularly is the fact that his visit is costing so very much money in, in the exact same week that, that he is talking about general Stark(?). I found that very troubling that we are spending literally millions of pounds on a state visit from somebody who represents not enough people to make it worthy. I said the Pope would like to go out and press record before that's the magic of radio and if they can just meet approach things from the secular sort of perspective and, and rather than the, the points ___ points which I remember all of the people I spoke to this evening have gone too and probably had find out that's what you're saying is.